Was Rose groomed by Pat Barry?
If you have watched the fight between Rose vs Carla Esparza last week, you probably know that Rose didn't win the fight, that we have a new champion, and that the fight was a lackluster non-fight.
His coach & partner Pat Barry was getting under a lot of fire after the fight, and was invited on the Ariel Helwani show to explain what went wrong during the fight.
What we ended up with, is a one hour interview, of the weirdest type, with so much to cover that it would be interesting to have a body language specialist breaking it down.
During this interview, Pat is "controlling" the conversation and seems a little bit off, it's hard to tell if he was on something, He has of course an history of addiction, but I surely don't want to make speculations without any proof.
Nonetheless, Pat is acting weird, doesn't blink, and Rose can be seen in the background folding the laundry, glancing at the camera over Pat's shoulder.
It's unclear if she is the one that didn't want to talk, or if it's Pat idea, trying to preserve his girlfriend/fighter's confidence, but after 20 minutes in the interview, Ariel start asking the hard questions, (there has always been a rumour on the internet, that Pat met Rose when she was 14 years old, as he was 27 years old at the time, 13 years older than her) and offers the opportunity to Pat to explain himself on that subject, which he categoricaly refused, claiming that it will just make the matter worse.
Rose eventually spoke up about her recent fight, but again Pat Barry ended up interejecting all along, and even asking Ariel if it was Pat's interview, or Rose's.
Again, you can think that it's just a coach trying to protect his fighter, or it could also be perceived as gaslighting.
The live chat is getting progressively more insulting, Pat made things much worse in less than an hour, and ever since that interview, the internet has been giving a new surname to Pat "The Predator" Barry.
It didn't take too long before UFC fighter & shit stirrer Sean Strickland to start speaking out about the whole conendrum, then Matt Mitrione (Pat's good friend) getting in the conversation:
Of course, the internet is already siding with Sean Strickland, and calling Pat a groomer, all sort of other names too.
Pat Barry often defends himself claiming that they only started dating when Rose was 18 years while he was 31 years old.
Fact of the matter is, it has been seen many times in the past, young athletes, students, can be easily impressed by authority figures, and get their feelings all mixed up, it's up to the Sensei to make the student understand that this is not the type of relationship a master should have with his student.
Did Pat Barry took advantage of the situation, and Rose's youth? This is what the internet seems to believe, and the interview above did not help to cement another narrative.
What do I personnaly think? Well, Rose and Pat have been together for 12 years now, and seem to be happy together, it's always easy to judge a situation without knowing the truth from all parties, it's also difficult to make assumptions, especially when the public is speculating, for lackthereof knowledge. So my opinion for now, is that I am being very cautious to make sure I don't defame. 😄
Only time will tell if Sean or Matt Mitrione (see video above) are right, I believe that the rumors, & the online pressure will become harder to handle for Pat & Rose, they seem not to enjoy the limelight, now every MMA youtube comments on the internet are mentioning "Pat the groomer", it probably won't take long before the truth comes out on that subject, not an easy fucking subject to talk about, but still, I think if it's something that happens commonly in the MMA world, it needs to stop and they all need to be exposed.
Alright Hive people, now it's your turn to give me your opinion. What y'all think?
What an interesting but difficult topic to give an opinion on because it is a delicate subject.
To know if your trainer took advantage of you or not.
It is easy for your coach to take advantage of you because he is an authority figure and has a lot of influence over you.
When you have UFC fighters for example, with all the explosive and bad character that they can have, I think it is difficult to think that they can take advantage of them. Difficult subject.
Yeah man it's a tough one, especially MMA is still very much a men's sport, I wish there were more female fighters training other female fighters, so we can avoid these difficult situation. Thanks for passing by kraken and dropping your comment!
Do you think with more women training other women these problems can be eliminated?
I don't know if it would be "eliminated" per say, bug whether it's in fighting or gymnastic, it's an issue that is real.
Eeewww!!! I cannot imagine dating my sensei... I will vomit for days and feel disgusted with myself. Sorry, but I have too much reverence for teachers, sensei, or lecturers to feel sexually attracted to them. Thankfully, I'm not that impressive to the point that someone wants to "groom" me. Just because I won't do it doesn't mean others feel the same. Anyway, true love is about becoming a better person. If I really love a person, I'll keep it in my heart until a suitable time.
Hahaha I am not surprised of your reaction!
This is exactly what I was thinking, and you would probably kick ass if someone tries to!
From what I understand, they waited until she was 18 for dating, but I don't think it makes it better. It's also hard to call it true love at that age, because when we're so young, everything feels like it's "true love".
I see! Thanks for the additional information. 18 years old is kind of like awkward age. Legally forced to be responsible for own choices and actions yet still emotionally immature. The truth is that even as solid adults above 25 years old, there is tough ambiguity in life. For example, if a lecturer was a divorcee and his Ph.D. student was pregnant with his child but there was only one postdoctoral position within his department, still, that position was finally given to the pregnant student. It causes unnecessary speculations about nepotism. Also, it undermines a woman's professional work ethic.
This is a very important subject! Especially women have in general a greater work ethic than men, who can be a bit leniant.
I also agree with what you said, even after 25 we're a mess. Well, I am 37 this year and still feel like a mess haha. Do you still train at the moment?
I'm going to start training again. Stopped due to Kendo and work. Kendo is not for me. My head hurts too much although there is a protective armor. 😂
I like UFC, sometimes I watch it, I remember Khabib and Conner's fight, and it was because my brother was checking it, but what I like about UFC is that it's real and it is not like WWE. Good posts man, from female fighters I think I know one of them called Ronda Rosy.
Wow David on UFC content I've never thought I'd see the day it happens!
Yes, Ronda Rousey, now she is doing WWE funny enough ^^
😂 do you like WWE? When I was a kid I was watching WWE on video cassette player, when I grew up Ive find out it is all a show so I gave up on it, and then first time I saw UFC on a TV channel, because in Iran they dont show box or UFC sports at all (I guess it is because of blood), so it was on a forgien channel that I saw only when we had a reciever, that's when I see them for first time, it was real and I liked it. 😀 though it was also brutal cause the guy was full of blood, the other player beat him too much that the floor was full of his blood and he was not giving up until the end, unfortunately I dont know their names.
I don't like WWE too much, I enjoy martial arts though, any type of martial arts.
I still think these WWE guys are athletes, but I prefer when there is contact.
UFC and MMA was banned in France too until last year, I only discovered it because I was in South Africa, I also trained Brazilian Ju Jitsu for a while. You'll never going to see it on TV here though...
I see, so it is an international issue. I heard about ju jitso, I only experienced Taekwondo in past. I liked it somehow. But its been a long time I was not joining any sport, some people told me that I was good for basketball or volleyball because I am tall 😄 but all I did was just making music
Taekwondo is amazing!!
Thx lil kittie!
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