RE: Hivechess season 8 final result: @sawko wins his 4th title

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I am only making the case for free will as an illusion from a natural point of view. Since you said that you "make decisions" because of the mere biochemical processes that you are also part of, then I added that ontologically approaching free will (making decisions) from physicalism and materialism wouldn't quite work either, because it's actually contradictory.

So I found your statement about you "being those biochemical processes leading to your decisions" somewhat confusing, where in this context "you" is understood as the agent making those decisions, hence the agent with free will. So, on a very technical and fundamental level of nature, we are not making any decisions because everything is determined or random. But I see that by "making decisions" you didn't mean that you have free will, but it's a bit of a confusing argument, maybe because of the flexibility of the language in this context but also after bringing up and relating that with the ideas about physicalism and materialism too :D



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OK, I know I am somewhat hairsplitting now:

So I found your statement about you "being those biochemical processes leading to your decisions" somewhat confusing, where in this context "you" is understood as the agent making those decisions, hence the agent with free will.

I think that is/was your interpretation of my words (maybe because you are accustomed to see people argue in a certain way). :)
I don't see the "you" (my identity) as a separated thing from the "biochemical processes" which are leading to decisions. That's why I wrote they "are" me.
(By the way English not to be my mother tongue doesn't make a discussion like this one easier ...)

So, on a very technical and fundamental level of nature, we are not making any decisions because everything is determined or random.

So you wouldn't call decisions "decisons" as soon as they are a deterministic result (or the result of 'deterministic probabilities') of biochemical processes? ;-)

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I don't see the "you" (my identity) as a separated thing from the "biochemical processes" which are leading to decisions. That's why I wrote they "are" me.
Yes, that's called materialism.
So you wouldn't call decisions "decisons" as soon as they are a deterministic result (or the result of 'deterministic probabilities') of biochemical processes? ;-)

I would add something like "apparent" somewhere, for example, since in this context someone making decisions (regardless of whether they look at themselves materialistically) is the same as exercising free will. Maybe something like: "I am the product of these biochemical processes leading to apparent decisions" or something like that. Like I said, that's valid mostly in a very fundamental level of nature and I got what you mean :)

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