DRIBBLING? SHOWBOATING? WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?

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USUAL SUSPECTS

The footballing legend, late Diego Maradona,Ronaldinho,Cristiano,Neymar,Paqueta,Okocha,Robinho,Vinicius jnr are names that come to mind when you think of players with fanciful dribbling skills. These above players/past players are usually quick to tell you that what they are doing is normal for them,a means to help their team out of trouble. Others say it's showboating. Where then do you draw the line?

HERE WE GO

If we may stick with some three players currently playing– Neymar jnr,Javier Pastore and Lucas Paqueta. All three share same ancestral roots– they all hail from the continent of South America(a continent profusely naturally blessed with footballing talents[Africa too is same],especially the flair kind of players). Also they all happen to play or have played in the French Ligue 1, a league that incidentally is akin to the South American physicality and dribbling. By the way,Africans mostly share same footballing philosophy too,so little wonder, Africans generally enjoy themselves in the French league–Austin Jay Jay Okocha named above played for PSG of France.

AN EXAMPLE

We take the "rainbow flick" for instance as one those called showboating. The above three players in focus all wear the No. 10 shirt and they are also the last ones to have done a "rainbow flick,"(this is when a player happens to flick the ball from behind him over his head and over the head of the opponent,the ball landing behind the opponent) in the French league.

Neymar did it against Toulouse, Pastore vs Metz and Paqueta, most recently pulled the skill off against Troyes in September 2021. Interestingly in this match, the Lyon playmaker was given a yellow card from referee Stephanie Frappart, a yellow card that didn't clear reveal if he was carded for "showboating" or for enthusiastically asking for a foul after an opponent handled the ball,according to his view.

It was thesame kind of atmosphere when Neymar did that skill too, that it provoked memories in him and he took to social media in defence of Paqueta– he in no uncertain terms expressed how sad it was for him to see the Paqueta incident, which a termed as a player being booked for a dribble. He went on to insist that the rainbow flick is an "asset" a skill that should not be frowned at no matter where the player does it on the pitch or at what minute in the game the player does it. He noted that he experienced it last season and this season it is Paqueta's turn. He concluded by expressing how puzzling the whole thing looks to him and saying,"it is the end of Joga Bonito."

We shall examine two or three very important words in the above statement.
Asset: Neymar considers a skill like that as an asset and part and parcel of the dribbling skill-set for a creatively minded player; much like pace or height are assets for other types of players. He is saying dribbling[in his own definition]should never be despised, that it is a huge quality for that matter.

Joga Bonito: These two words are famous Brazilian words which in principle describes Brazilian football. It is the spirit of football for any Brazilian. "Joga Bonito" translated to English means, "play beautifully". It doesn't take long to see this principle at work in any Brazilian player, it is playing with enjoyment, with a smile on your face, with skills and thrills,it's like music to them. Maybe sometimes, for players from some other continents, this style can seem appalling, as if just dribbling for it's own sake.

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Can you recall the genius of a dribbler in Austin Jay Jay Okocha– his rainbow flicks, dummies,and all which sometimes seem to produce no real forward ball movement? Remember Adel Taarabt and his flair skills? Remember Nani on Portugal too? One particularly situation happened in 2008 when he was a Manchester United player. It was a match against Arsenal and the winger started running with the ball on his head,doing keepy-uppies, his team being 4-0 up at that time.
This upset some Arsenal players and Gilberto rose to confirm these saying "some... guys were upset". He went on to say he personally confronted Nani after the game, telling him how unnecessary it was for him to do that plus he could infuriate an opposing player so much doing that that he is kicked badly.
I remember with fondness, the true life story of Makalele softly but firmly warning Ronaldinho during an El Classico match,that he should mellow down on the unnecessary extras if not he can send him to a lengthy injury spell. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-funny-legends-the-story-of-claude-makelele-threatening-ronaldinho-is-incredible-20210218.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwj_vJn8ptD1AhWdAWMBHUNVAjAQFnoECAQQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1MkLZI0jYyyAm34IrxLjwD

The "Paqueta incident" poured fuel into an already intense debate down the years over where the line should be drawn between dribbling and showboating. Are there any boundaries?

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Is there a point in which dribbling can progress up to, beyond which you can now term it as excessive? When is dribbling purely a skill to outwit an an opponent, and when does it get to the point that it is aimed at attempt humiliating them? This is an ancient argument that is not likely to go away anytime soon, it's like a "recurring decimal" as the Mathematicians will say.

FOR

For a Javier Pastore, dribbling with flair is only natural. The former PSG playmaker was one of the most gifted artists on the ball Ligue 1 has ever seen, with him,for example, having the most nutmegs in his time in Paris. That was him and just one of his usual arsenal of tricks. Interestingly, football seems to be recognising these "extras" as most football data analysts have now begun detailing "successful nutmegs" in an entire season. Funny enough Pastore was often benched in PSG with reasons bordering on his artistic style, his coaches often seem to want from him,more graft than artistry.

The bundle of flair, French midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa, speaks—

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AGAINST

On the other hand some other players and fans believe that showboating does exist and is targeted at infuriating or winding-up the opposition, which they say is not necessary. They do agree that dribbling is okay,so long as it doesn't include showboating. One former French International speaks for the opposition ideology—

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CONCLUSION

Well, in football people tend to use whatever they have to gain advantage. We know of teams who have a reputation of conning referees,players who take to time wasting to salvage something from a match,or players who do trash talking to opponents all to gain one advantage or the other. So perhaps showboating falls into this category.

For some, a rainbow flick,keepy-uppy,fanciful leg-overs and all those kinds of flair play called "showboating",is a part and parcel of dribbling, but others won't have that.

Ultimately, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

cheerfully...



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Very good exhaustiv analysis, the truth is that each player has his own style for dribbling, perhaps the fluency of the ancestors has positive effects. I have always admired a lot the players of the past because they had limited resources compared to the players of the present, you know what I mean. Great post 👍

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Oh many thanks @vjap55 for accepting my invite to come over here.I appreciate your commendation too. Yeah each player and his own style.
Okay your admiration is for the old times. I see, well just like we said on dribbling, we can now say every football follower with his own admiration.🤷‍♂️

Cheers bro

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I have heard many coaches say the biggest problem with African footballers is they play for the crowds response. I think this is obvious when you watch the local teams on television as the standards reflect exactly that. Use the talent if you have it by all means as not everyone can perform with the ball like a handful can.

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Thanks for the comments sir.

Well I've heard other technocrats in the game say,the biggest problem of African football is the coaching.
Let me assure you that they are absolutely right.

Actually better put, it is a continent that largely suffers from POOR FOOTBALL ADMINISTRATION AT ALL LEVELS. Under this you have poor— coaching,player welfare,education,statistical football studies etc.
Now that leaves football to be ruled by mostly the talents of the players and the natural passion of the players(and fans too) for football.

So please those "many coaches" you talked about are wrong and what you see on TV is only a symptom of the real disease I have explained above.

Brazil for instance even termed their football "Joga Bonito",and on TV you see the flicks,thrills,the "dancing" with ball,the crowd enjoying it. But if you think their football,their national team successes, is all about playing beautifully and crowd pleasing, then you are ignorant. Brazil has a dedicated system of proper football administration at all levels. They have an expansive network that grooms the kids,in academies and all that,all through to their older years. That is why the Brazilian league can be compared to some top European leagues. That is also why if they are to play a friendly today and maybe a Manchester City somehow fails to let Gabriel Jésus go, the Brazilian FA can easily pick a proper replacement from their league. The craze to play in Europe is not so much in Brazil as it is in most of Africa.

The North Africans and South Africa are the best run in terms of football management and it shows,eg the North Africans are the usual winners of the African Chamoions League,infact "they own it" as folks will say in Africa. At a time, 90% of the Egyptian national team(a North African team) were picked from their club sides, especially their top club El Ahly. Players in Egypt are not so desperate to run to Europe,like some other African climes, infact Egypt,other fellow North African countries and South Africa, is the aspiration of super talents in other parts of African.

Yet it is the West Africans that are the most talented in Africa,
they are profusely(if I may say it mildly) talented in football.
Give West African countries like Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory Coast only half of the footballing administration in say Germany and you would be amazed as to kind of success you would see on the pitch and it would no longer be left to talent alone.

These are facts.

Thanks, @ always a pleasure to have you here

Regards

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Maybe you are right about this and it is the set ups the countries have that is holding them back. I know in South Africa the administration is not great either so if it is seen as one of the best in Africa there is a problem. I have noticed the big difference is the money is not in the game compared to the rest of the world as player wages are not on the same levels. One player in Europe earns what an entire squad would earn here.

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So you see that? Yet South Africa is one of the best in Africa.
Big difference in money, fall under poor player welfare I talked about,and it's for this reason and better coaching, top talents in Africa seek to go to North Africa if they can't get into Europe.

I give you a little extra because,I'm excited chatting with you. A little over a week before this ongoing AFCON a certain Portuguese, José Peseiro, was announced by the Nigerian FA as their new Head coach; he was to be at the AFCON to know the team and offer pieces of advice but only after the AFCON would he take-over from the caretaker coach.

This coach who began his coaching career in 1992,coached Al Ahly of Egypt only about 5yrs back and the fans were absolutely livid as to why the club will sign such a coach with a CV too poor to coach a team of their status.He spent only one season in Egypt.
Do you see the kind of standard in Egypt?
Now do you believe that the Portuguese coach was no where to be found at the AFCON to perform his familiarisation and counselling duties with the Nigerian team? When the FA were pressured with questions, they then replied that the coach has indeed agreed to sign the contract but they haven't given him the papers to sign.
The question is what are you waiting for? Or why did you announce a new coach and detailing his duty at the AFCON without finishing the signing process?

Look African football mostly need an overhaul. What folks see on TV are just symptoms of a deeper issue.

I hope I didn't bore you with long gist?
Thanks a lot for your time sir.

Cheers

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Benny McCarthy is coaching here and just think he left West ham on disciplinary grounds for being unfit and too fat. Only player I know who lost his contract for being too unfit. What message is he offering his team he is coaching as he should not be allowed anywhere near a team. I think people have short memories as in this case he is a disgrace to football.

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Oh Benny is still coaching? Years back I know he became the coach of a SA club, but I never followed up. It seems he is still coaching because of his big name status as a player,not because of his competence. He was indeed a big name even in Africa as a player. But if he is stilling coaching because of his competence,is there any problems with that?

Everton and Man U legend,Wayne Rooney,was caught very recently in a dirty scenario. He went with ladies(his wife wasn't there) to a hotel room for a party. He drank and passed out and one of the ladies took pictures of him in that demeaning condition,with her and her friend in scanty clothes makes faces of fun and made it public. By this time he was already coach of Derby County,a job he still holds till today. He went and apologised to the club and the players and he's still there and even has been interviewed for the vacant Everton managerial seat,with no uproar happening over his past.

Again that's why a lot of coaches won't invite Balotelli back to the Italian squad, but Mancini just did.
There has to be a line between discipline and haunting. Who has not committed a sin should raise his finger. We should condemn bad behaviour by all means, but never throw the baby away with the bath water.

I therefore submit that if Mr Benny has retraced his steps,why remember his past? Did Zidane not do something terrible as a player to Italian Matarazzi? Yet Madrid employed him and he won great things.

I absolutely don't know what's up with Benny in SA,but since you are there you know better. If the guy has turned a new leaf, we should be Godly enough to let go of his past. However if he won't change from his old ways,we can querry why he is being employed.

Anyways like I said,the challenge with African football is more than this,it is systemic.
I didn't know you were in SA,is that your homeland?

Thanks again for your time sir.

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I think the problem is the guy cannot respect a contract so what kind of advice is he giving to younger players in his squad. May have ben a big name in Africa but elsewhere he is considered a joke.

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You have not answered my question. Has he carried same attitude to coaching?
He is not the first to have had problems as a player,he is not the biggest offender we have seen even.

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What difference does that make? If you don't respect contracts as a player then you won't change because you are a coach. That is just too simple to think like that thinking someone changes because their job title changes. Godly has nothing to do with this as it is his character in question. Zidane head butted someone but wasn't in breach of his employment contract. Yes I love in SA for now.

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Not respecting a contract is a character flaw isn't it? And it wasn't only West Ham he played for.
Head-butting is a character flaw too. Wayne Rooney's shameful drinking with ladies is a character flaw.

You need everything to come together as a coach not just the contractual side. Please what is this obsession with honouring contracts as if that is all about coaching?

You are propounding a theory. I tell you another theory, THAT PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. Infact mine is no theory,I have seen it happen.

I have asked you if he still maintains his old ways, you are telling me he can't change,instead of answering the question. Did you do a personal business with Benny or something? I don't get.
You live in South Africa, I don't. So you should be able to see for yourself and inform us if he is lousy with his contracts or if he is not competent on the job.

I have been asking you this since my first reply to this Benny thing,which is even an aside, but for reasons best known to you, you have still not replied.
I'm tired of waiting, Google is my friend,here I come.

A pleasure conversing with you.

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We agree to disagree as you are missing the point. As a manager he is in charge of contracts with his players. What message does that send knowing what he has done himself. Some people may well change but believe he should never have been given this role as he is no role model for young players. I don't give a toss if he has changed or not as you obviously are of the forgiving kind. Big difference between what Rooney and Zidane did compared to Benni and you obviously have your own thoughts. Also saying Google is your friend is disrespectful.

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Okay so you are not of the forgiving type? If you are not,I invite you to join my camp. It is the best way of living,a great way to pamper our heart.
Zidane was forgiven, Rooney was. Balotelli was.

I didn't ask you to give a toss on change,if there is a change the fruits are obvious. You can see Zidane didn't carry his temper problems into coaching, that is a sign of change and the list goes on. This life we live in,is replete with examples of folks who make mistakes and later in life become masters in that area they failed. Your mess sometimes become your message. And this is no fiction,I am talking reality here,with verifiable stories that space and time won't allow me to share here.

You come with no evidence of a lack of competence( whether on the contractual side or morality or coaching tactics or anything) and you expect me to crucify a man who once had an issue as a player. Excuse me sir, I don't do such things.

Like you said, we agree to disagree,no hard feelings if we don't converge here. That's life,we remain friends.

Sorry about the "google is my friend" thing. I meant no disrespect please.

I always give room for a thing called "language barrier" when talking to an international audience. We use English diffently,the Australians,the Americans,the Scottish all different.

In my area, the Google statement you referenced is not disrespectful and I remain loyal to how we use it here.
Infact I had the right to express my irritation in your not answering my question on Mccarthy for the umpteenth time,but I chose to go with our gentle phrase in these parts saying,"Google is my friend". In these parts what is considered sometimes disrespectful is when you tell someone, "Google is your friend". Just free lectures on our manner here.🙂

So indeed I fulfilled the promise by duly going to Google and the man is doing miracles in his current club and did well in the previous one in SA. I didn't also see any bad example he is passing on to players. He won the coach of the season last season an award usually won by coaches who win the league. He didn't win the league but how he transformed the team was the game changer.

I appreciate your time. I think this is a record you have help me set here in response to a post.[smiles]

Cheers

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