Removing 50% Authors Reward. A Sportstalk Proposal Worth Knowing.

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As it is now customary to post from Sportstalk interface judging from the proposal going on in the Proposal to Adopt Rewards Change for SPORTS, I'm left speechless about what is happening, is this the decentralized system we all envisioned? Have we thought of it if other platforms too do the same? Users will surely go with the highest bidder. Is this action in the right direction? Is this the only solution to this problem?


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I've thought of this matter in no small way and came to the conclusion that this might not necessarily be the solution to the problems of dumping sports at the market as dumping sports isn't the big deal and what should be the top most on the scale of preference of challenges facing Sports. The number one is lack of dapps and collaborations with other projects. Sportstalk by now should have been the much talked about crypto currency token in many quarters where Sports is mentioned. By June this year, sports would have been two years in existence, and here we are just gearing up for proposals. We've left so many things undone, unattended to to have started from depriving users of there reward at 50%.

By now, Sportstalk should have had more than two DAPPS built on it, either gaming, betting or Sports prediction, enough use cases to bring about the buying of Sports and more reason for people to hold Sports because they know the values.

When it comes to burning, a 10% of reward sent to null across all post made with the Sportstalk tag should be ok enough. At a flat rate, either posting from native or non-native. Even if it's a must to send user's reward to Null, it's still ok at 10% for non-native Sports posts reward to be Sent To Null. Depriving users of there reward because they refuse to use your Interface is a narcissist way of forcing users to bend to your rule. You're also depriving them of the reward from there post totally. That's not funny at all. Not forgetting that back in the days the @actifit you're all fighting against bought some Sports to reward her actifiters. To what extent is that now when the users can't get the reward. We shouldn't forget that the most successful tribe presently on Hive, which is leo is paying out it's reward in liquid, so is ctp, even scorum(a Sports content platfrom) is doing same, and still, dumping isn't an issue, you want to know why,use case, When a platform, tribe or a crypto project has a use case, the tokens keeps having values no matter the amount in circulation because users are making use of it in more than one way. The only one way of using Sportstalk is earn it as post reward or Curation reward and then go to the market to sell. Burning tokens isn't the real deal, the real thing is use cases, projects and dapp integration..

Lastly, there shouldn't be Curation anymore for post made from non-natives Sportstalk UI, those who are posting from another UI aside from Sportstalk UI also forfeit been curated for OCD upvote, an initiative under @cryptoandcofee. Accounts like https://www.sportstalksocial.com/@sportscurator from @sportscurator and @sportstalksocial
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https://www.sportstalksocial.com/@sportstalksocial/posts can or should also curate sports content made only with Sportstalk interface.

There are still many more things Sports can do to make sure dumping is minimize and token value is appreciating each day. It's not a rocket science. We just have to look deep.

And for the proposal, it's the Yes having it, so, we just have to wait for the effect of our actions.

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I appreciate your thoughts on the proposal. I just want to touch on a few points that I feel I should touch on.

I don't think that the current proposal for SPORTS is the fix to all SPORTS problems. I've been clear in other comments on posts about that. I think this is a step to incentivizing using the token site which builds up benefits like SEO and eventually advertising for that platform. That doesn't mean that the current proposal is necessary for those other features to be adopted it just would help incentivize the value of using the main site. It's the same incentivization LEO is using on their own tribe you posted this from.

As for the amount that is being set to burn from the proposal this is the same as another tribe that adopted this feature to much success already. It might be more than you were wanting to see so I welcome addition proposals to change the amount if you think it should be lower. That's the benefit of the proposal system is that only the community gets to say what happens so I encourage you to request this be changed if it does happen to pass. Right now the proposal I made hasn't received the necessary support and may not pass due to needing 51% of the tribe's GP for quorum. You'd be more than welcome to issue a lower one if you feel there would be support for it.

The same principle applies to dapps the community would like to see built. If anyone has an idea or feels that one should be ready then I encourage them to issue a proposal and seek SPORTS for creating it. I don't think anyone is against having more dapps and I would imagine that a strong proposal would be funded for one quickly. I have even personally funded dapp creation for SPORTS in the past though they didn't pan out the way I had hoped.

Finally as for the voting I don't disagree for SPORTS accounts (@sportstalksocial, @sport-gov). I think it would make a lot of sense for SPORTS voting accounts to only vote for posts that originate from the main site. I'll look to see if I can adjust our daily curation report to reflect that and eventually make a proposal to see if that's something the community would like. As for OCD's support of the hive-101690 (Sports Talk Social) community, which I'm forever grateful for, I don't think they intend to directly support SPORTS posts. My understanding is that they are interested in growing communities on Hive versus supporting tokens of any kind. I won't speak for them but highly doubt they would be interested in only supporting posts from our site for that reason.

I hope this sheds some light where my head is with the system and why the proposal was initiated. Even if it does pass then we can always have additional proposals in the future that eliminate it all together or change the % or dapps allowed if that's desired. That, to me, is the beauty of having the proposal system in the first place. We aren't forced to rely on just what I, or anyone else, thinks about how this should be organized.

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I can guess it can be passed if "Yes" > "No".
why we need to wait for 51% if someone is absent.

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I hope this sheds some light where my head is with the system and why the proposal was initiated. Even if it does pass then we can always have additional proposals in the future that eliminate it all together or change the % or dapps allowed if that's desired.

Yeah, that't the beauty of a proposal system.

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the real thing is use cases, projects and dapp integration

I completely agree with you. Burning rewards is one element, not everything. If we can use SPORTS tokens like buying NFTs, or any product, its value will increase automatically. People have reasons to hold and spend the tokens for different things.

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Yeah, we'll have to take them ONE after another till we eliminate the problems to the barest minimum.

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Lastly, there shouldn't be Curation anymore for post made from non-natives Sportstalk UI, those who are posting from another UI aside from Sportstalk UI also forfeit been curated for OCD upvote, an initiative under @cryptoandcofee. Accounts like https://www.sportstalksocial.com/@sportscurator from @sportscurator and @sportstalksocial
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https://www.sportstalksocial.com/@sportstalksocial/posts can or should also curate sports content made only with Sportstalk interface.

I found it little absurd.

  1. Those who are not posting from UI already giving half of rewards, Infact they are contributing in burn of tokens.

  2. How it guarantee that posting from sports interface increase the value of sports and prevent dumping.

  3. When most of sports is filled by actifit report and in this case thinking of not curating the content that can really match "OCD standards" is not logical on my eyes.

  4. Incentives should be extra those who use interface but no incentives/ 0 rewards if not using it , does not sound logical to me.

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Thanks Botefarm for all you do for SPORTS and the supports so far. Thanks for also taking time to air your views on the present 50% tax cut on non-native sportstalk posts. While I understand you totally, yet, I have my reservations on your positions in this post.

By now, Sportstalk should have had more than two DAPPS built on it, either gaming, betting or Sports prediction, enough use cases to bring about the buying of Sports and more reason for people to hold Sports because they know the values.

With Proposals system now up, we should not be blaming anyone for dapp development on SPORTS. Everyone now has the opportunity top build something. I have and you have. let's reach out to the developers we know and get creative, set-up a proposal and if it looks great, then, community will support and it gets funded. I think @Patrickulrich has done noble to have this going.

When it comes to burning, a 10% of reward sent to null across all post made with the Sportstalk tag should be good enough. At a flat rate, either posting from native or non-native.

I totally disagree with this. How would we have to burn 10% of all posts including native posts. What then would be the incentive to post on sportstalk and grow SEO for the community. I would out-rightly say that I personally earn much of my SPORTS from posts earned from LeoFinance end which is my main account. But I can;'t help as much as I know that burning tokens would be to the good of SPORTS in the long run.

Even if it's a must to send user's reward to Null, it's still okay at 10% for non-native Sports posts reward to be Sent To Null.

I'll agree that we could set another proposal to review the 50% tax and maybe reduce it to 30%. For me, 10% is really out of scope. We must understand that the printing rate and supply of SPORTS is different from that of LEO and STEM, their supply and printing rate is quite low compared to SPORTS. Setting a 10% tax is as good as doing nothing.

I'll vote for a 30% tax if the present doesn't pass.

Depriving users of there reward because they refuse to use your Interface is a narcissist way of forcing users to bend to your rule.

50% tax doesn't deprive anyone of rewards, it's only reducing the rewards for not posting on the SPORTSTALK UI by half of what the user would have gotten. Remember also that earning SPORTS for a typical Actifit post is a "bonus".

You're also depriving them of the reward from there post totally. That's not funny at all. Not forgetting that back in the days the @actifit you're all fighting against bought some Sports to reward her actifiters.

Actifiters (including myself) are not deprived of rewards. If I may ask, do you receive AFIT rewards for posting on Sportstalk with #actifit tag? No is the answer. It's not a fight against actifit, The STS community is just trying to create more incentives for other users to also use their frontend. It's not a war against Actifit.

I also create actifit posts and earn some decent SPORTS from them, but then, it's just a bonus to add to my AFIT rewards.

Let's be able to face the realities of the issues constructively. 50% tax looks high, we can review it to 30% or so but 10% is too low for a token like SPORTS.

I am a top buyer when it comes to SPORTS and I can tell which accounts do dump their SPORTS on me. I track them and have the records. It consists mostly of those who earn SPORTS as a bonus. They neither stake the token, only dump after payout. We all have the liberty to do what we like with our tokens earned and the community also has the liberty to tell who earns more of the tokens or not as an incentive to encourage users to use their front end.

We should be happy to see SPORTS go the present direction in price and development. Let's join hands to make it better. Collaboration with other communities is good but should not be at the detriment of the home community. Let's put things in their right perspectives, SPORTS can grow again. When SPORTS scales to new heights, we'll have more new collaborations. LeoFinance had no collaboration until it came to the limelight.

Let's reach out to the typical sports content writers, and have this place populated.

One Love!

Let's build this community together, we've stayed together during those low tide times.

Feel free to comment here or on the post. https://www.sportstalksocial.com/hive-101690/@uyobong.sports/community-development-perspectives-to-50-sports-tax-on-non-native-posts

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Doing the curation for OCD I am looking for quality content and don't care what front end is used. We are helping to build the community not to alienate it. I understand the reasoning behind using the Sportstalk UI and why I voted for it. Everyone has their choices and penalising for using another front end I believe is fair.

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