RE: A New Scot Tribe On Steem! SteemAce.io For Gaming Content | Over 100k SP, 7.5k PAL And 120 Splinterlands Beta Booster To Reward Great Content and GG Stakers

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Congratulations on launching your community, and thanks for the airdrop!

Although it is a bit disconcerting that so many new communities are choosing to use staked PAL as a metric for an airdrop. Belief in PAL doesn't necessarily equate to you potentially being a good user to stake into a completely different new community.

You may have issues with PAL that cause you to decide to sell the PAL. Or you could have sold it before you even really understood what it was. You could have also just never staked it, because you haven't really checked out PAL yet. Or you could just dislike the fact that it's a general community and to post in it you have to sacrifice a keyword for something that's not really related to the subject of the article.

In the same vein, you could have just decided to buy a bunch of PAL just so you can profit from that new community, possibly even in one of the minor price drops.

Or you could just not be a true believer in PAL. Maybe you have your PAL on the market to sell at a spike.

Point is that there are a ton of reasons. Glad you at least have some extra plans for an airdrop that take more into account than PAL though.

Decided to stake my GG and put in an order for a bit more. Might add some extra buy orders in lower.



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If you were to design a community and have an airdrop, how would YOU do it?

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Spider based on tags for maybe the last 6 months, taking powered up Steem and other coins in as a factor maybe? Maybe consider comments and the likelihood of them getting a reply and upvote from the author and random users. It depends on the platform. If it was a trading platform, I might have to actually consider various times in their wallet history when they transferred money to an exchange, then later transferred money back. I guess the best metric would probably be interaction with the community based on tags. So, if it was trading, I would check trading related tags, who commented how much, how likely they were to get a reply, how likely they were to get an upvote on that reply from the OP and for how much, and how likely they were to get a random upvote, weighting it against repeated upvotes to attempt to avoid bots.

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It's not even smart to power up PAL on your main account as the difference between PAL Vote Power and Steem Vote Power will be completely different.

Many are building alt accounts for each tribe which is becoming silly imo but you loss more than 50% of your voting power if you don't do it in most cases. Even more on tribes like SteemAce that is even more niche.

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Yeah...I was kinda worried about it when PAL first started, because it creates an incentive to curate PAL more than non-PAL posts. I didn't really consider making a secondary account to vote on PAL with though.

You either lose that PAL upvote, or you only vote PAL posts, or you create a secondary account to only upvote PAL posts.

Once more of these communities popped up though, I started to think that it just means that you will not be able to use all your capability to use PAL, and most people won't. That means that the rewards for those communities will be a bit more, because the pool is smaller. That also means the abuse could possibly be worse.

I'm not sure what this is all gonna mean yet. I think possibly these communities might be a great way for some to earn in some niches...but they are also their own little fiefdoms with the associated troubles.

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With more communities, it is more of a mess to manage. If you just curate Pal you potentially alienate many users. Pal is also the best case scenario, when you start looking at other tribes that are niche, it becomes even more of a problem.

Imagine only curating SteemAce? You would be limited to only gaming posts, or you would waste your SteemAce voting power if you went outside of that niche as your Steem voting power would become out of sync.

Even more of a problem when you have a lot of stake, and don't want to vote everything for $3 on Steem, yet anything less than your 100% on SteemAce/Pal/SteemLeo and other tribes is pathetically low.

I've seen a lot of people start making alt accounts to handle their voting power on different tribes, but this means 2-10 additional accounts just to manage your voting power on these tribes. A good example, my PAL power was always 97-100%, yet my Steem voting power is usually 88%-100%. They usually differ by 10% and my PAL is frequently 100% for hours wasting a vast majority.

There is just so much cognitive load to handle these tribes, and that's not just min/maxing either, when you lose half your voting power it isn't about min-maxing.

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Even more of a problem when you have a lot of stake, and don't want to vote everything for $3 on Steem, yet anything less than your 100% on SteemAce/Pal/SteemLeo and other tribes is pathetically low.

Clearly you just need to buy a fuckton more of every coin in existence. :P

It actually really sucks when someone with a massive stake upvotes you with like 1% or something, and it's like a penny. Like how shitty was my comment? Even worse when they don't even reply. If you're gonna give a shitty vote that suggests that a comment is shit, then at least say something.

I've seen a lot of people start making alt accounts to handle their voting power on different tribes, but this means 2-10 additional accounts just to manage your voting power on these tribes.

I guess the only solution is botted secondary accounts. But then how do you decide how much to vote? Maybe some kinda interface that shows what posts you upvoted that have certain tags, like with palnet or whatever, and let you set how much you upvote with your secondary?

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It actually really sucks when someone with a massive stake upvotes you with like 1% or something, and it's like a penny. Like how shitty was my comment? Even worse when they don't even reply. If you're gonna give a shitty vote that suggests that a comment is shit, then at least say something.

I wouldn't take it personally, many people don't vote comments high.

I guess the only solution is botted secondary accounts. But then how do you decide how much to vote? Maybe some kinda interface that shows what posts you upvoted that have certain tags, like with palnet or whatever, and let you set how much you upvote with your secondary?

It's a huge pain and stupid problem to have to deal with.

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Yeah, I've moved to upvoting comments at like 30%, just so I have more VP for posts. But I pick and choose how much to upvote based on how I feel they contributed, whether or not I agree with them. Still trying to build up my SP so those upvotes suck a little less though in their actual payout though.

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HF20 really made voting for comments suck.

In the past, if I voted you when I repies (which is usually well within 15 minutes, for example this is 6 minutes) I would give more to you, which is fine. Now it gets returned to the pool, so my influence is taxed based on how responsive I am.

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That has been one of the things I have have really worried about. I understand why they did it...but also...it's really dumb for a number of reasons.

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You have been rewarded with some SHIT! Take a trip to the bathroom to stake and manage your worthless tokens.

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