RE: Hivechess Season 16 "Untitled" starting this Friday!
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So no titled players allowed (@eniolw, @sawko, @maestroask). Why? Because frankly I found it very disappointing, that none of the strongest players in our team ever showed up to represent the team in the Lichess Team Battles, NOT A SINGLE TIME, despite I had emphasized numerous times how beneficial that would be for our team. So in this season other strong players have a great opportunity to become champion. Titled players can play along out of competition, but their results won´t be counted.
Hi, @stayoutoftherz. I want to express you my opinion about the condition you put for the chess tournament league.
It seems valid to me that non-titled players have the right to shine too, so there can be exclusive seasons for them. However, we must remember that some players are very strong even though they don't hold titles (or we don't know if they do), so it is not clear why you are discriminating based on title.
Likewise, I don't think it is necessary or appropriate to make that comment as given in the text about titled players who did not participate in previous team tournaments. It is a comment that does not feel constructive.
Maybe the titled players (whom you also call 'the strongest') had valid reasons for not participating and you don't know them. Maybe they had other commitments or preferences or were simply unavailable. You can't assume they don't care about the team or don't want to support it.
I think it would have been better if you had announced in advance that it was necessary to participate in that league in order to compete in the next one; make this disclaimer specifically. That way, all players would have the same information and opportunity. It can be argued that it is not fair to associate the desire to organize a tournament for non-titled players with the desire to apply a retroactive penalty without prior warning.
Don't forget that although there are incentives, the community is still a community of volunteers. I think it is important to respect all players regardless of their level or degree of participation.
I can understand your frustration. And it is indeed a bit arbitrarily, I admit. I thought long about giving other players a chance to get top places, and the only other way is to split the tournaments up to 2 or more skill leagues, like Lichess does with the <1300, <1500, etc tournaments. But this is unfortunately logistically too complicated for me to handle. So why not this way? It won´t be forever. Feel free to reinstall the chessbrothersbro tournaments or create a new format, then you can set the rules as you like.
If it is "appropriate" or not, is a matter of opinion, I respect your opinion. But maybe it would have been appropriate, at least ONCE to play for the Blockchain team and not your other teams. I am also in a chess club, but I preferred to play always for the Hive team.
I'm not frustrated, I'm just impressed with the way the post tags some members of the community and reproaches them. I don't find it constructive.
Okay, I can do that. But that's not my point. I said your new season is fine for non-title players to have a chance. I'm just pointing out that I don't see enough justification for selling that good idea along with a desire to punish other people.
I see. I thank you for considering me a good candidate to score a lot of points for the team. Perhaps I could have participated if someone else helped me with my work, taking on my responsibilities and plans while playing an online tournament in an online community of volunteers, that is, there was no mandatory commitment.
I don't see how you can equate the appropriateness of not participating in a league that is voluntary and had no clear prior rules or warnings about the absences of very specific people with the appropriateness of singling out some members of the community who had valid reasons for not participating and giving the impression of applying a penalty to them after the fact.